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Frodo was thrust with the Ring task, but Sam didn't!
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Sam is somewhat enjoying it! It's like a fairy tale to him!
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They even talk about telling stories of this
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Frodo says “they'll talk about Samwise the Brave”
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Sam thinks Frodo's making fun of him, but he's not
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Sam has been growing!
Sam's Sympathy of Dead Warrior
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Sam sees the first dead man he's ever seen up close up that had fallen in battle
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Sam starts thinking “What's his name? Did he want to come here and fight, or would he
rather have stayed home in peace?”
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This shows Tolkien's idea that war isn't “good vs. evil”
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On BOTH sides of war, there are angels and orcs, and there are plain men
Faramir
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Faramir is another one of these Tolkien heroes harassing the enemy
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Excellent bowmen, dressed in green, very much like Robin Hood
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We don't know yet that Faramir is Boromir's brother
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Faramir says “Whatever Isildur's Bane is, I will not touch it” or w/e
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He shares Aragorn's nobility, and it's a kind of nobility we don't understand anymore
these days
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In the movie, however, Faramir does the opposite!
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Sam eventually gets over his distrust of Faramir and he accidentally blurts out that Isildur's
Bane is the Ring
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Then, Faramir understands everything and STILL says he doesn't want to even see it!
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He just lets them go!
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Faramir says that Gondor (his own nation) brought about its own destruction!
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He essentially says that the last people of Gondor were only looking in their past at their
Golden Age instead of looking forward
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Like many of Tolkien's heroes, Faramir is very pessimistic
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He thinks that there is no hope for return for Gondor, but he still fights on
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This is much like Frodo, who has no hope for his mission, but still fights on
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This is Tolkien's idea of bravery without hope: thinking that you're going to lose, but
fighting on anyways
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It is suggested that Faramir was a disciple of Gandalf
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Faramir is really anti-war, and he does not love battle
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He loves Gondor, and that's why he's fighting
Faramir and Religion
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It's with Faramir where we see the only religious practice in the entire series
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Before every meal, the men face west and put their hands on their chests
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They are looking west to acknowledge the Valar and Aman, and thus indirectly Eru
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They are “the faithful”
Problem with Nazgul and Frodo Scene in the Movie
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There is a scene in the movie where the Nazgul flies down and Frodo tries to give him the
Ring
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Sam tackles Frodo and the Nazgul is hit with an arrow and flies away
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This makes absolutely no sense, because the Nazgul and Sauron have fully connected
minds, so Sauron would know EXACTLY where the Ring is, right next to Mordor!
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Gandalf's trick of taking Pippin to Minas Tirith would have failed because Sauron would
know it's not there
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Sauron would have sent ALL of his troops to right where Frodo was!
Shelob's Lair and Sam's Heroism
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